Also, assuming that you’ve tried to pair it, and it won’t find it. Disable/enable the sensor? I’ve never heard of ANT+ interference before to be honest (from either anyone at ANT+ or any consumers). My question is: are magnet-based sensors the only way to get an accurate cadence reading in all circumstances? I can’t seem to pair my timex global trainer with the cadence sensor. Garmin Cadence/Speed Sensor Bundle (EU/UK/AU/NZ – Wiggle). When I try to pair just the cadence sensor with my 510 it still wants to connect my GSC combined speed/cadence and won’t connect my new wireless cadence sensor separately. SC is the previous generation I think, with magnets. ANT+ Speed/Cadence Combo: The older GSC-10 combo sensor I find that when I attach the speed sensor to the rear wheel, the ant+ connection seems intermittent. My existing ANT+ speed sensor (the one that came with the SRM) just died, and I like the design and ability of place the Garmin sensor on the hub. Thanks! Hello! The Garmin website states these are compatible but the Garmin site is not always right. Assuming this is the only way to find out the difference. They are not supporting Bluetooth, therefore they will not “talk” to your phone natively. The initial battery lasted roughly a year, but two batteries have lasted a matter of rides in comparison. The RPM Cadence Sensor is designed to work with the Wahoo Fitness app which supports most Bluetooth ® compliant Android devices running Android version 6 or newer. Vector, SRM, Quarq) I've found the powertap sensor to be very inaccurate in some edge cases. Nearly 2 months later I had a call from them to say Garmin would replace it. Hi I bought this sensor for my indoor training. The Garmin cadence sensor doesn’t support bluetooth.  I’ll try and get this added into the table, but it’s going to take a bit more time since I’m travelling. Bring your smartphone within 3 m (10 ft.) of the sensor. Note: Since Android devices vary widely, compatibility cannot be assured for all devices. However, I’m thinking of purchasing a Edge 810. Most of the time. Examples for 3 common tire sizes: I can attach the cadence sensor easily but as there is no hub not the speed sensor. When it’s mounted on the wheels, the speed does not show on my fenix 3 hr. These sound interesting for use on a recumbent, where it’s not possible to use the combined sensor that came with my 510 because the wheel and pedals are at opposite ends of the bike. I was using the GSC-10 with my Edge 820, so far, so good. Any reason why pls,could I try to mount it on wheel some how thanks. Let’s say I bought only a cadence sensor and wanted to pair it with my Fenix 3 HR. Thank you. Thanks for reading! I bought the garmin heart rate plus cadence and speed sensor. I have used the decathlon £17 ones with no issues, also the gsc10 with no issues, but as mentioned, the latest garmin incarnation is the best. What you see is that while there is a tiny bit of noise (just like indoors) – overall it still tracks fairly well, especially the accelerations.  And while it appears there might be a 1-second delay on some of the quicker accelerations from zero, that’s hard to quantify due to a lot of factors involved in the transmission and capture process – even with everything in sync. Garmin advices a setup to make working Satges PM with with a Edge 500. Hi Ray. If you’re like me, several miles may have passed in blissful whistling before you notice that the sensor magnet on the crank arm has fallen completely off. Because we all know the altitude/elevation data from any of the Garmin devices isn’t that accurate. I recently upgraded from an older Garmin Cadence sensor to a newer model and I am very impressed in the improvements that Garmin made. Or any salvage help on Timex with Wahoo sensor? You’ll need to validate that. You need to connect with Ant+. If you want speed indoors, then you’ll probably want to either get the bundle (speed sensor + cadence sensor), or the combo (speed/cadence). Garmin Speed Sensor V2 – Competitive Cyclist. Looking for the best sports tech deals for the holidays? Then check out the massive list of everything, from $150 off the Garmin Fenix 6, plus big deals on Apple, GoPro, Suunto, Polar, Samsung, Withings, and many more! Under Bike Settings, I’ve selected the bike on my trainer, selected ANT + SPD/CAD, and selected YES about the sensors being present, all while riding the bike to get the sensors moving. Always a pleasure reading your reviews. I recently tried these Garmin sensors with my Galaxy S6 Smartphone and although listed as a compatible device with Samsung they did not communicate with each other. I installed the cadence sensor and I can’t get the led to light up. I plan to buy Garmin Edge 520 for outdoor and some indoor trainning info. I can’t seem to get them to pair. Most folks just leave it on all the time. This is why I am going to try Garmin’s new speed sensor. My speed sensor cut out one time after a light washing. Thanks. I've added a signature to prove it is still possible. Got it?  Ok, good, let’s talk compatibility.  Below is a chart I’ve put together after manually verifying compatibility with each sensor type.  If there are more down the line that others are able to validate I can easily add them to the chart, but I wanted to keep it to things I’ve physically validated rather than just assumptions. I used to use the Garmin GSC-10 speed/cadence unit, then changed over to the Bontrager combo that uses a band to attach it to the chainstay. Hi, as ever thanks for the review…..really useful. Ride fixed on the road and your speedo serves the same purpose (cadence = 5 x speed for 42:16). I was thinking maybe I only need ANT+ cadence SENSOR so that I can monitor that but wanted to make sure…. I ride with my Vivoactive, which has GPS and I’m wondering if this speed sensor would be more accurate than the GPS. and it appears that battery life might be an issue….thinking I could probably leave my cadence and maybe speed “off” during the trip…. I have started using Garmin Vivoactive with HRM and it is calculating my speed pretty accurately. Click above for all the details. So in doing some research, it appears the challenge is that the TCT2 can’t handle the longer ANT+ ID strings that some of the newer speed/cadence are using. Using an Optional Bike Speed or Cadence Sensor You can use a compatible bike speed or cadence sensor to send data to your device. One sensor for speed, and one sensor for cadence. How do I tell which power meter does which? battery easely changing or must buy new sensor? The speed sensor must be paired directly through the Garmin Connect™ app, instead of from the Bluetooth ® settings on your smartphone. Be sure you spin up the cadence sensor … Also, if you go somewhere where GPS reception is iffy (dense forest, canyons, large city) you won’t be affected. I have tried to repair the HR monitor. Do you know if I can follow my speed and cadence real time (in a stationary bike) on the app or on the vivofit screen? Q1: I’ve read in multiple places that there is supposed to be a green flashing light on the cadence sensor. But then you have to worry that the head unit won’t accept a number that small (since on a real bicycle wheel it’s typically almost 10 times bigger). After it’s set up, the 500 should only pair with the sensors that are on that particular bike, so all you have to remember to do is choose the correct profile. Needed to put it on the back wheel for the trainer. What are your least favorite countries/places? Updated (twice): One final thing to note: Some older Garmin units only support concurrently connecting to EITHER the speed-only sensor or the cadence-only sensor (or a combo sensor). I travel a fair bit, both for work and for fun. Yes. What are your thoughts please, I note the 235 is not included in your charts above but that maybe because the 235 was not around when this review was done. You’re auto pause is significantly faster than GPS. Actually, you’re the very first person in 5 months to mention it (Sigma) in any comment on the blog. Your email address will not be published. No, BT sensors won’t connect to an Edge unfortunately. (I don’t know what happened. ANT+ and Bluetooth 4.0 connectivity ensure the Magene S3+ will work with compatible devices, including smartphones, bike computers and more. Might the old style magnet based Garmin cadence/speed sensors be best with dynamo hubs? Has anyone had a similar thing and found the answer? ANT+ Speed & Cadence Combo: The older GSC-10 combo sensor. Turn it back on Got to the settings and tell it you do not have any sensors Then tell it you do have a cadence sensor and search Repeat for speed sensor or dont … I'm currently using my old (3 years?) The Cateye unit is using a 2.4Ghz wireless signal and this Garmin sensor is using the proprietary ANT+ signal. I am glad that I did not spend 500 euros more for left and right side measurement PM. Any idea’s??? Hi Rey. I don’t want to deal with putting the Wahoo on my shoe. My 705 reports 7.65 miles. It knows nothing about speed/distance. I set up the cadence sensor with my 310xt yesterday (which is working) but now my HR monitor is not working on either the bike or run. And, I have no issues with the speed sensor and my PC8. But… Can you confirm that it worked on the Timex Cycle Trainer GPS? Ride fixed on the road and your speedo serves the same purpose (cadence = 5 x speed for 42:16). Interesting. I have the garmin edge 1000 with hrm, speed and cadence sensors and it is great on my roubaix bike. Are there GPS data available as well inside the FIT file? Dan, I personally had good success with the Wahoo RPM attached to my shoe when doing high cadence drills all the way to 200+ rpm. Suunto Bluetooth HR Sensor works for OS X only. Obviously avoiding drive belts and running belts. So I decided to go for these magnetless ones thinking no magnet, no chance of spikes. I have to keep the Bluetooth on the whole ride or only pairing them once is enough?  The new cadence sensor had an automatic configuration of 2097, versus my others having 2088. Thanks. Does the Edge 1000 have the capability of pairing with more one speed sensor and one cadence sensor? You can check by looking for a ‘show system Apps’ (upper right corner triple dot) in the Application Manager called ANT or ANT+ or something to that effect. Thanks in advance. I really don’t care as long as its close, but where most manuals calculate my 700x25c road tires at 2110, 2140 seems like a significant difference. I went for a ride today and again my Garmin Explore was not reporting cadence, yesterday it was. I am curious if you or anyone knows if the speed sensor can register a wheel rotation with hard bumps from roots or rocks. How close the crank is to the inside of bike. Or should I buy the Bluetooth setup and just run MTB rides off of my iPhone? If I were in your situation I’d calibrate all of the various combinations ahead of time and then input the proper number manually before using the specific wheel/tire combination. I haven’t heard of or ever seen a good option for attaching a speed sensor to a spin bike (at least one that’s not yours). No problem, here's the platform I use - you can too! http://velocomputer.com/views/products-sensor5. I can’t say anything about a 1000, but I know an 800 will recalibrate from time to time, and my 800 has screwed up recalibration often enough that I always manually calibrate my 3 bikes with different wheel sizes and don’t allow it to calibrate itself. Jiri – Czech Republic. Very odd I use a speed sensor on my rear hub garmin edge 1000. So in efforts to combat the amount of emails I need to sort through on a daily basis, I’ve complied this “My Photography Gear” post for your curious minds! Turn your Garmin off for five minutes. The first thing to know is that unlike Garmin’s past GSC-10 Speed/Cadence Combo sensor, these are two separate sensors. If looking for a dual sensor, the BlueSCv2 is the way to go (it’s what I largely use now). I have two bikes. Finally got both paired. I’m pretty sure I am using the largest one but can’t be positive until I find the others, if I can find them. Garmin has a really neat ANT+ speed-sensing device, which fits to the hub and does away with the need for a spoke-mounted magnet. Reattach the cadence sensor I’ve experienced the Powertap G3 failing to measure this. I pulled the battery and still no joy. Chris, Hi Ray, Hello, what do you mean “mixed”, in compatibility with timex cycle trainer2? It first uses a spoke magnet and cadence magnet placed on … I am having trouble with it being all over the place with speed on the rear hub. Daniel, have you looked at the Garmin Connect Web application? Hi Ray, I am having a difficult time adding these sensors: speed and cadence to my Garmin Fenix 3. Yes, I am looking for a hypothetical measurements but think that, should the resistance stay the same speed, distance and cadence information would be pretty helpful to measure progress. Hi, I’ve just bought a Minoura B60-R turbo trainer and would like to use it with Zwift. I read all LED related posts on this page and found folks had similar issues. Sadly, today I discovered that the new Zipp NSW rear hub interferes with the hub based speed sensor from Garmin. I have easily attached it to the front roller of the treadmill by the side of the belt – it rotates freely with no hindrance from anything. Does the 910XT just automatically pair up with the sensors, or am I supposed to be getting an alert that says “SPD/CAD SENSOR DETECTED” like I get for my heart rate monitor or my footpod? So if you used the bigger bands and it wobbles a bit. Do you think this sensor can fit in a crank of a spinning bike? My Photography Gear: The Cameras and Equipment I Use Daily, DC Rainmaker 2019 swim, bike, run, and general gear list. Thanks for the quick response…do iPhones support ant+? After my first ride i noticed that the battery drain is much much higher. It’s quick glance at higher cadence sensor dedicated and double. Not after the workout is done, but while its being done. I get my trainings from TrainingPeaks and I guess its not possible anymore to sync CG and TrainingPeaks since 2016 🙁. First, you’ll utilize those rubber band skills to attach it to your crank arm. Big question here. Any ideas on how to block the magnetic force from immobilizing the hub based speed sensor??? Now, that said, if you’re comfortable with glueing a magnet on, you could technically glue a magnet in a place it doesn’t get ripped off. yup, in the UK. I am pretty sure it did not start with that. I’m having issues. As a practical matter, unless you’re riding mountain bikes in dense forests on twisty trails or road bikes in cities, where GPS error can get much worse because of sky blockage/reflections, you’re not likely to notice the difference. Suunto Bluetooth HR Sensor works for OS X only. I guess on the trike I’d see speed change in corners but hopefully not by much. The speed sensor 2 … One thing to keep in mind is that for the most part all sensors are made by a single OEM in Asia, and then just rebranded. The Wahoo must use something more permanent. Obviously, this did not last long as the magnet would eventually work loose from rotating around the rollers. I just bought a 520 with all the sensors and I do a lot of crosscountry cycling complemented by spinning classes. Lastly, just for reference, I’ve added the order of precedence for cadence senors as shown on Garmin devices (it can differ in other vendors): 1. Garmin Speed Sensor 2 and Cadence Sensor 2 Bundle, Bike Sensors to Monitor Speed and Pedaling Cadence The speed sensor 2 attaches to the hub of either wheel and self-calibrates with your Edge cycling computer or compatible Garmin device to give you accurate speed and distance at all times — even without a head unit. About the only scenario I’d bother with a speed sensor is indoors (on a trainer), or if I was doing frequent mountain biking and really cared about my speed (I generally don’t). The Wahoo mount for the crankarm doesnt look that bad but I am going to keep it on my cycling shoe since its an effortless swap to each bike and I can just take it off my shoe when I am MTBing. Wirelessly connect to devices such as your GPS computer, Iphone/ Android smartphone and record your speed and cadence … Any ideas what’s occurring. Oh, and you can sign-up for the newsletter here! Regards from Samsun, Turkey…, PS: Forgot to mention that % is related to battery of course 🙂. Sometimes I like to spin a really high cadence for a minute or two (180 rpm or even topping 200 for a handful of seconds.) Or why Wahoo’s BlueSC looks identical to Bontrager’s. Calibrate once per ride? 1. I may hope you have someone answering this kind of questions for ya Ray! This is my second sensor. There is no way to change this order on any devices on the market I’m aware of, except a few apps such as the Wahoo Fitness app. The backdraw is that the new Garmin sensor makes my hub looking ugly. If the head unit has GPS, they usually self-calibrate from GPS distance, but even then it may take a little time to do it, so the readings may be off. Basically I asking does anyone know if any Android App have 4 ant profiles: – 700×23: 2096 mm Just today, they were particularly bad and geographic location seemed to have some affect. A win overall. Firstly thank you for this site its very helpful. Please help if you know.  If you’re trying to decide which unit to buy – check out my in-depth reviews section. my recumbent setup exactly and do use the front wheel for the speed sensor, an additional benefit of this setup is a shorter distance to whatever head unit you are using..r. My speed sensor seems to be playing up the last few days. 1) The Wahoo allows you to connect your smart phone or other device over bluetooth. Nopez, didn’t even think about that since it’s brand new. Both are priced about the same and work fine. Hi everybody. After all, if your Elevation Gain changes, so will your overall distance (and dramatically more on long rides). I’ll poke some folks to see what’s up there and get it aligned. Then hit up Wiggle at the link below! Hi, thanks for the great article. My crank is 30mm high by 10 mm wide. 3. Is it still around? However I think you will be good. Hi, Power meter sending power values and cadence (e.g. If you’re new around these parts, here’s the long version of my story. My question is: If you’re like me, several miles may have passed in blissful whistling before you notice that the sensor … Got it. For example, a bicycle will at most go 100 kph (27 m / s) normally (and this is a nice round number which is about twice the maximum speed I usually attain during the year), so the sensor may not be designed to work above 15 revolutions per second. I was planning on downloading the ipbike app. Whilst this did initially work I discovered that at speeds in excess of 6mph, the Ambit could not compute the information (speed rate at which the flywheel was rotaing.) Did you try changing the battery in the HR monitor? If so that would be what I need to snag! So I’m wondering if something else is going on…. In accordance with our ingegrated design philosophy, Garmin utilizes all-in-one electronic sensors which consume less space and energy. Am I trying to do something that it cannot do? Wahoo RPM Speed Sensor– Magnet-Less Option To Track Cycling Progress. The symptoms sound pretty similar. Instead, a 3-axis accelerometer is used to determine the location of the crank arm and thus your RPM. This could be just what I`ve been waiting for! the one recently added. If you’re outside the US, I’ve got links to all of the major individual country Amazon stores on the sidebar towards the top. What will be the best for today? If you want it to lie to you, then you have to put the sensor on the hub of the wheel somehow, and then you set the wheel circumference to whatever gives you acceptable numbers. I’m headed to Washington DC – what do you recommend for training? Any suggestions? Has anyone had issues with battery life? Nothing happens at all, I have taken the battery out more times then I can count and nothing. 🙁. I don’t get an LED. The first thing to know is that unlike Garmin’s past GSC-10 Speed/Cadence Combo sensor, these are two separate sensors.  One sensor for speed, and one sensor for cadence.  The two don’t talk to each other, and don’t have any dependencies on each other.  It’s two separate products, though Garmin does offer a bundle where they just stick the two products in the same box and you save a bit of cash.  Let’s dive into them individually in more detail: The cadence sensor has two basic pieces: The sensor and the rubber band.  Within the package there are three rubber bands for different size crank arms.  I found that on my bike I needed the medium sized band, as the small one was too small and has very little elasticity.  There is no magnet here.  It simply uses an internal accelerometer to determine circular rotations. The firmware on my Cervelo P5 XS frame size, how many percentage would the sensor with the GPS... 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