We believe that America should be free and support the 2nd Amendment. Nov 1, 2013 #1 M. mattri Well-Known Member. For elk, .30 caliber is my preference and my go to is the .300 Win Mag. Price gouging at its finest . Mag. 7mm & 300 . Rifle. Here are some measurements and comments about the 300 Win vs the 30 Nos. Mar 5, 2017 147 6. Winchester certainly marketed it properly—though it was obviously in direct competition with both their .308 Winchester and the .300 Winchester Magnum—and it seemed like overnight everyone was carrying a three-hundred-short-mag. So a .300 WSM Winchester Short Magnum round exits the barrel with kinetic energy equal to the energy required for linear vertical displacement of 3580 pounds through a one foot distance, while a .308 Winchester round exiting the barrel has energy equal to the amount required to displace 2620 pounds over the same one foot distance. .300 Win Mag vs. .300 WSM. Have you ever considered the 270 WSM? 1; 2; 3; Next. 300 PRC vs 300 WIN MAG!In this video we take a detailed look at the 300 prc cartridge and ballistics. Last year, I was hunting with a buddy that was shooting a 6.5-300 Weatherby and I was shooting a .300 Win Mag. Campfire 'Bwana. On deer, it hauls enough energy (1000 ft-lbs) to take them down at 700-800 yards, while the 308 runs out of steam at 700 and really should be kept inside 500 to keep impact velocity above most bullet manufacturer’s recommended 1800 fps. The .300 WSM also head spaces off its case shoulder versus the older 300 Winchester Magnum's belted head space engineered design. In truth, the .300 WSM runs a bit (though not significantly) slower than its bigger brother, and in some rifles, demonstrated serious feeding issues. Hi there, I'm Will and I'll be your guide. Looking at building an intermediate range rifle for target and hunting. I have a 300 WM and 300 WSM, most times the WSM gets the nod because I don't want to carry a 9+ lb rifle on a 3000 ft ascent. 6. The photo below does a great job of showing the differences in external dimensions between the 300 Winchester Magnum and the 300 Winchester Short Magnum. by Philip Massaro - Saturday, October 3, 2020. 300 WSM vs 300 Win Mag. Aug 4, 2010 1,461 0 32 Cleveland, OH. Campfire 'Bwana. And is the ammo for the 325 easy to get over in Africa (Namibia) just incase things go missing in transit. For the 300 win the only new case I had was a Lapua head stamp. ELR - Beyond 1000 Yards M. manscout Sergeant of the Hide. Swift Chief Bagel Technician . 300 WSM - .74" Barrel contour - 1:11" Twist rate - 22 3/4" barrel length Rifle 2. But I know what you … I just wrapped up a 7mm WSM build after selling my 300 WSM. Shot and have seen elk shot with a lot of different cartridges. My main animals will be kudu zebra eland springbuck gemsbok and so on. The .300 WSM ( Winchester Short Magnum) is nothing more than a old elephant gun cartridge, shortened and necked down to .308 The same diameter as the 30/06 Govt. For competition shooting, we recommend 6.5 Creedmoor. Savage_99. Gunner66. The .30/06 vs. the .300 Winchester Magnum. as far as the win mag vs the wsm for distances between … I shot mine at 270 yards, quartering away, 1 time. Thread starter mattri; Start date Nov 1, 2013; Help Support Long Range Hunting : Join the LRH Team or . Go. Weight (lbs) Capacity. $2+ for a piece of Winchester brass? Length. rifles, of the same model and shot 100 groups with each rifle - that the WSM average would be a tad better. Thread starter tac29136; Start date Jan 13, 2018; tac29136 Well-Known Member. Savage_99. Go. vs. .300 Wby. More. What relevance that has to killing an elk is about diddley. Jan 15, 2016 #1 Need to pick a big caliber rifle and I have come down to the following options : Rifle 1. PX Member. 300 WSM vs. .300 WIN MAG..... Thread starter Gunner66; Start date Jan 15, 2016; 1; 2; 3; Next. May 23, 2020 36 9. 300 Win Mag vs 308 . if you need the weight diff of a shorter action,then you need to look at how much that diff is and why you cant carry that weight.me -i will take the 300 win mag .-good luck in your choice.-as some one said- get enough brass and your set up for the life of the gun It has slightly less powder capacity than the standard length .300 Winchester Magnum. There is a 325 wsm in the same make of rifle that i like but would like to know what people think of the 325 over the 300. The fact is that each cartridge has different points with lots of advantages. Minuteman. Both cases were new unfired. Next Last. Good luck! I think I'd prefer it over the 280 Ackley just because brass is probably a little easier to come by. 300 Blackout VS 308 Winchester; 300 Win Mag VS 308 Win Mag; 3.9/5 (10 Reviews) Will Ellis. Q. Quigley76 Private. Mag. Me shooting 300 Win Mag at a big buck Slayer Nation Outdoors The 300 is an awesome cartridge, I liked the weight to BC options in the 7mm range. 1 of 2 Go to page. I would bet that if you took 100 .300 WSM rifles and 100 .300 Win. the 300 wsm is at full throttle while the 300 win mag is producing the goods a lot easier.time will tell for the 300wsm. Peterpan Banhammer. Like others already noted, you have plenty of gun to 1000+ yards. I don’t know who else makes wsm brass besides Winchester, but there is an unnecessary markup on any wsm brass, whether it be 300, 7, or 270. PX Member. L. Loki Well-Known Member. I have a 300 WSM with 2200 rounds through the barrel and still shooting 6-8" 10 shot groups at 1000. the throat has moved forward about .075, so yes I think there is a difference in barrel life with the advantage to the WSM. PX Member. … If you are shooting at greater than 1200 meters, .300 Win Mag is the best bet. Jun 15, 2018 #32 Bertram now makes saum and WSM brass. Apr 6, 2014 #6 B. Broz Well-Known Member . .300 WIN.MAG. May 28, 2020 #1 Hi Crew: This is my first post in this forum, though I have been reading Sniper's Hide posts for years … The 300 WSM is equal to the 300 win mag … Next Last. If you are looking for the perfect suppressor for your firearm, here are the top four units to consider. 1 of 3 Go to page. When comparing a standard .300 WSM vs .300 Win Mag, it was proved that the .300 win magnum had a higher recoil but could deliver bullets at a very high speed. The 300 Win Mag can put the same energy on target at out to 600 yards, nearly twice the distance. Banned ! Same weight bullet, same velocity = same recoil. Minuteman. and the performance drops off fast. The following ammunition cartridge ballistics information and chart can be used to approximately compare .30-06 Springfield vs .300 WSM Winchester Short Magnum ammo rounds. Posts: 14,807. Opening morning in Wyoming proved to be as picturesque as I imagined it; my pal Mike Ruella and I were teamed up with a competent guide, there were antelope everywhere, and the weather was perfect. Notably, the .300 Win Mag cartridge fires a projectile that on average can best the .308 Winchester cartridge by 50% on overall distance while maintaining lethality. Minuteman. Feb 17, 2010 56 5 Texas. Velocity also has a role to play. The specs on a standard rem 700 SA mag box is around 2.865”. One other stipulation is if you prefer to hunt with an AR-frame weapon. Minuteman. Next Last. Without the extra barrel the gain is … Thread starter Quigley76; Start date May 28, 2020; Tags 300prc 300wm 300wsm hunting; Forums. Head to Head: .300 Win. SUBSCRIBE. I want to get a 300 win mag but the gun i am after i am having trouble getting it. Old school here. in bullets you start to loose case capacity compared to the Win Mag. The only advantage to a short magnum is that the powder is in a bigger jug, which allows them to use a short action on the rifle. 300 win mag vs 300 wsm. The 300 Win Mag kicks too much for me to enjoy and while a senior I am 6', 175 # and have large hands. The 300 WSM is also a good round but once you pass about 165grs. The RUM's are not … Barrel length. Recoil of the 300 WSM should be pretty much the same as the 300 Win Mag. Joined: Sep 2003. Advanced Marksmanship Unit. I did some bench comparisons of the two. The advantage to this round is the ballistics are nearly identical to the .300 Winchester Magnum ,  but in a lighter rifle with a shorter action burning 8 - 10% less gun powder. Re: .270 WSM or .300 WSM or .300 Win Mag [Re: akarrow] #9006492 07/08/14: Joined: Sep 2003. mag. 1 of 3 Go to page. It's pretty close to the 280 Ackley and since you're a reloader, obtaining ammo won't be an issue. and the .300 Winchester Magnum. Jan 13, 2018 #1 Does the .300wsm have any major benefits over the .300wm? If you wanted to hunt long range, I would opt for the .300. Well written and easy to understand . First on the list is this suppressor from Silencerco, which has a decent customer satisfaction score. Last year, I harvested a bull elk at 931 yards. Posts: 14,807. But this was good because I have found that the case capacity of the … The WSM I own shoots 165 Accubond bullets very well, my WM shoots the same flavor only in 180 gr best. If you like to hunt with AR style weapons, 6.5 Creedmoor is the best choice. … Another vote for the .300 Win Mag. He shot his elk, broadside at between 180 and 240 yards, 5 times. The goal of this article is to help you determine which .300 Win Mag Rifle is best for you. As a slight aside, the .300 Winchester Short Magnum (.300 WSM) has an even larger diameter case than the .300 Winchester Magnum (.535″ vs .532″). I love how hard the 300 WM hits elk at 300+ yards, but the WSM is no slouch. They are both excellent cartridges. So, even though it has a 2.1″ case length that’s just a little longer than the .308 Winchester case, the .300 WSM has a significantly larger case capacity (79.0g H2O) than the .308 Winchester and .30-06 Springfield. 6 COMMENTS . The reason I say the WSM over the .300 Win Mag is a shorter bolt throw. But the 300 WSM is also a great choice. Joined Feb 3, 2007 Messages 8,638 Location Townsend, Montana. The .260 is going to be much more pleasant to shoot than the magnum calibers. … The .300 WSM (Winchester Short Magnum) is the most popular and widely distributed of the modern crop of short magnum cartridges in terms of both factory loaded ammunition and rifles available. Please note, the following information reflects the estimated average ballistics for each caliber and does not pertain to a particular manufacturer, bullet weight, or jacketing type. Bolt Action Rifles 1; 2; Next. If I'm day hunting in moderate terrain, which is rare anymore, I'll use the WM. Jan 27, 2020 … Joined Aug 18, 2009 Messages 121. If you’re to shoot a long-distance target, you’ll need a bullet with a high velocity. I took rough measurements of both the 300 Win Mag and the 30 Nosler with the very popular 215 Berger hybrid. Big deal. C. CA48 Private. MudRunner2005 said: If 800 is your longest shot, save the barrel life by getting the .300 WinMag. Final Verdict: 300 Win Mag vs. 300 Ultra Mag. Best .300 Win Mag Rifles Comparison 2020. The 300 Win Mag is older but still versatile in for shooting in most hunting sites. Closer than that, 6.5 Creedmoor is a better option. A 300 win mag is a massive firearm that can be super loud when you take a shot with it. Personally, we think that whether you choose the 300 Win Mag or 300 Ultra Mag, you’ll gain the same level of shooting experience. Silencerco Sparrow 22 Long Rifle Suppressor. So a .270 WSM Winchester Short Magnum round exits the barrel with kinetic energy equal to the energy required for linear vertical displacement of 3170 pounds through a one foot distance, while a .300 Winchester Magnum round exiting the barrel has energy equal to the amount required to displace 3520 pounds over the same one foot distance. Velocity. Mike had taken a very handsome buck, with horns in the shape of a heart … Mar 23, 2017 #1 i'm trying to wrap my head around some specifics for the rifle i will eventually build. Go. 30-06 vs 300 WSM vs 300 Win Mag look at these numbers. Ken Kendall June 21, 2019 at 1:24 pm. Thanks . This will not be a bench gun, nor … Plus even with modern powders you need more than two feet of barrel to burn the shovel full of powder in either which negates a lot of the reason for having a short action caliber. Thread starter manscout; Start date Mar 23, 2017; Forums. Truly appreciate you watching the videos!Milk jugs with these two power houses!! Both are celebrated by hunters worldwide, but which one of these classic .30-caliber cartridges will come out on top Same deal, if you did that with the .308 vs the .30-06, the .308 will produce slightly better groups. Sell me on a 300 WSM vs. 300 WM vs. 300 PRC for Hunting. First, the .300 Win Mag is a lot longer. Either way, just keep an eye on the mag box length for the rifle you choose. Here at Gun News Daily, we support guns for self defense and and competitive shooting. But if you are going 1,000 plus consistently, I would look into a 7 wsm or 7 saum.